Woodland Hills School District Looks to Begin Advertising Campaign
Competition from charter and private schools are forcing districts to get creative.
Joe Lafferty wears his pride for Woodland Hills School District on his sleeve and he looks forward to telling people exactly why he thinks the district deserves the chance to educate the area's children.
Lafferty gave a presentation during Wednesday’s school board meeting outlining how and why the district could and should market itself to parents of potential students.
With charter schools opening in many school districts across Pennsylvania, competition between public and private schools are in a new realm of consumerism. More and more school districts, like McKeesport, now advertise within their communities.
Woodland Hills budgeted $25,000 to be used for marketing, and Lafferty, who is a football coach in the district and a 1990 graduate, is tasked with coming up with ways to utilize the money as efficiently and creatively as possible.
Lafferty is a marketing businessman who is serving the district as an unpaid special assistant to the superintendent for community relations, he said.
With two cable TV channels on Comcast, Lafferty said there’s a great opportunity to brag about the district and change the minds of parents who are considering moving their children to a private school.
He said he’d like to see the two cable channels run more like commercial channels that include regular programing and commercials touting the district. He envisions three-minute vignettes featuring successful alumni that would not only inspire parents, but students in the district.
“We’ve been around 25 years now so we have some great stories,” he said.
Students most likely will be involved with productions, giving them chances to gain practical world experience in broadcasting.
Lafferty's plan also includes billboards advertising in the district, as well as web ads. The message he’s imagining is: “Woodland Hills Where Diversity Works,” focusing on its diverse citizens and diverse curriculum.
Board member Robert Tomasic suggested Lafferty push school safety hard when devising marketing strategies. The dozen or so parents he talked with who moved their children out of the district, all said it was because of their concerns with school and bus safety, he said.
The board asked Lafferty to return next month and present some examples of the kinds of advertising and video vignettes, as well as a cost sheet.
“I think it can be very powerful,” he said.
The school board acted on the following items at Wednesday’s regular school board meeting:
- Approved disposing of a large cache of old and outdated text and library reference books that are being stored at Rankin Promise School. The district will first try to sell the books. If buyers can’t be found, the district will try to donate them to organizations in need. All money made will go to district libraries.
- Approved for senior members of the high school’s music department to make a trip to New York City Jan 18-21. The trip will cost $600 per student and chaperone, and includes two Broadway shows and a trip to Ellis Island, among other sightseeing. The district is not responsible for the costs.
- The board accepted an energy study conducted by Foreman Architecture that was needed in order to continue with renovation plans to the high school. State law requires an energy study to be conducted on all the school district’s buildings even if only one building is being renovated or constructed.
Energy efficiency varied wildly from one building to the next. The least energy efficient two buildings were the academy and junior high. The best two were Fairless and the high school, with the remainder of the buildings rating about the same.
Jim S
9:40 am on Thursday, September 13, 2012
The best marketing is to improve the schools performance. We received a letter from Woodland Hills saying they ranked in the lowest 15% of PA schools. How do you market that???
Joe Lafferty
11:09 am on Thursday, September 13, 2012
Jim, I know that you are smart enough to realize that although standardized testing is a tool to evaluate students, teacher performance and overall success of a school district, it is just one tool. If you were given one task at work once a year would that evaluate your entire years work? Woodland Hills seniors from the class of 2012 earned more than $2,000,000 in academic scholarships & an additional $50005000+ in athletic scholarships, which you MUST prove academically worthy to receive. That's a tool for evaluation too.
Disgruntled Alum
11:54 am on Thursday, September 13, 2012
By hiding behind an outstanding musical program and a successful football team. They're like a great dressing on a bad salad.
Elizabeth
3:21 pm on Thursday, September 13, 2012
Mr. Lafferty,
Would you please confirm for me that you did indeed mean to say that WHSD seniors earned 2 million dollars in academic scholarships and more than 50 million in athletic scholarships? Because I would begin to understand your emphasis on athletics at that point. My son is likely to be academic rather than athletic, and it does not convince me that WHSD is the place for him, but parents of athletic children might feel differently with that kind of scholarship money. Also, what is the breakdown of that money along needs vs. merit for WHSD students? Obviously, WHSD is comprised of many low income students, so if needs-based scholarship money is included in your 2 million dollar figure I think that needs to be interpreted in light of that fact.
Regarding this issue (and it is one we have asked our school board representative about, with no answer)... what is the college graduation rate of WHSD a) students and b) athletes? Not the acceptance rate, but the graduation rate? I can't seem to find that information anywhere. And it seems a critical piece of evaluation data.
Tyler McGuigan
3:38 pm on Thursday, September 13, 2012
Elizabeth, as a recent WH grad ('07). I went to college with 8 credits for Physics from taking AP Physics and getting the required score. I know other students that carried even more over. There are plenty of opportunites for all students to further their education. WH has a wide range of AP classes at the high school, and the Gifted program offers even more experiences. If your son is involved in the right classes and activities he will do fine. I have friends that graduated and went to the Naval Academy (now getting a masters at MIT), a few that went to Georgetown, and many that went to other amazing schools throughout the country. The biggest problem is that these students that thrive are not focused on much at all.
Elizabeth
11:16 am on Thursday, September 13, 2012
Maybe they should spend that $25,000 on an aid for the kindergarden class that has 30 students in it. #anotherwhsdfail
Disgruntled Alum
11:44 am on Thursday, September 13, 2012
Well said!
Elizabeth
11:17 am on Thursday, September 13, 2012
whoops.. aide. Darn autocorrect!
John Q
11:23 am on Thursday, September 13, 2012
I can't blame any parent for aggressively exploring any and all options to get their children out of WHSD. In addition to the well-documented safety concerns, the district is ranked 480th out of 498 school districts in Pennsylvania for academic achievement. Dickson Elementary, Fairless Elementary, Wilkins Elementary, Edgewood Elementary, Woodland Hills Junior High School School and Woodland Hills High School are all among the 15% lowest achieving schools in the Commonwealth. To any caring parent, these statistics are alarming. Instead of constantly touting how many football players from WHSD are in the NFL, the district should be spending time, money and energy on improving the abysmal academic performance in its schools.
Disgruntled Alum
11:48 am on Thursday, September 13, 2012
"I can't blame any parent for aggressively exploring any and all options to get their children out of WHSD. In addition to the well-documented safety concerns, the district is ranked 480th out of 498 school districts in Pennsylvania for academic achievement."
I know we got our kids out after just 1 year!!!
Touting the former football players' accomplishments IS important, but you are right, there has to be something done about the CONSTANT poor performance in the classroom.
Disgruntled Alum
11:41 am on Thursday, September 13, 2012
As a parent of a child that has left the district for another public school, I think there should be a focus on what is going in inside the classroom. My child's new school's curriculum and teaching methods are HEAD & SHOULDERS above what she received at Woodland Hills. As a Woodland Hills alumnus, I am embarrassed by what is going on in and out of the classrooms at WH.
Joe Lafferty
12:40 pm on Thursday, September 13, 2012
Of course, hiding behind aliases or a cute nom de plume makes the weak feel strong to criticize. The media decides what is reported, like NFL players. Had any of you that commented attended the board meeting last night you would have heard me specifically say that the great messages need to get out other than the usual musical and football. They do have enough touters and don't need more. WHSD offers many thnings that the other public schools don't. Try to follow this example. "Other public schools" are like a convenience store owner and your child is the customer. The school district/taxpayers have to pay for whatever the customer wants from the store. All the schools have to do is feed/sell them things they want to eat. Candy and junk food that tastes good but isn't good for your long term health. Need more explaining? You are being sold a bill of goods that isn't good for you or your child. "Other public schools" are a business, pure and simple. You know why they don't have "other public schools" in Upper St Clair and Mt Lebanon? Has nothing to do with test scores or safety...the property they have to rent for the schools is TOO HIGH. It throws off the profit margin. Thats also why they pay unqualified teachers less. Its better for profits. Of course you knew all this already...right?
Disgruntled Alum
12:53 pm on Thursday, September 13, 2012
My pen name is my business, not yours! You'd be SHOCKED if you knew who I really am.
No Joe. We moved our children to another district. Not a public charter school within WH. This district does have public charter schools in their district, but their curriculum and methods are MUCH better than Woodland Hills.
I guess it is the media's fault WH scores in the bottom 15% in the state or is ranked among the bottom 4% of districts in the state?
Elizabeth
3:40 pm on Thursday, September 13, 2012
As an educator, I simply can not let this go unchallenged. Charter schools (and private schools) exist where there is a market for them. WHSD is a failing school district. The state says so. Parents say so. The scores say so. That does not mean there aren't redeeming characteristics, simply that they are not sufficient. So charter schools and private schools are abundant in this area. They are not abundant in areas where the public schools are good. They may exist-- to cater to a type of student who does not do well in traditional public school-- but they are not abundant. Most parents would rather send their children to the local public school. We pay substantial taxes to be able to do so. So to imply that parents are mislead (or stupid) if they choose not to send their child to a failing school because schools that offer alternatives and choices (like playgrounds and daily art and music) that more closely align with what they are looking for are some how duped is insulting to say the least.
If you want to promote WHSD, go ahead. That is fine and appropriate (if, I think, a pointless waste of my money.) But to imply that parents are somehow too stupid to be able to tell the difference between a good school and a failing school only demonstrates you don't deserve my money or my child. Private and charter schools that fail don't survive. Too bad the same can't be said for public schools. Stop blaming parents who care about their children for your problems.
Sue T
4:05 pm on Thursday, September 13, 2012
I can see this advertising program is off to a great start. Insulting the parents that the school district wants to attract.
John Q
1:11 pm on Thursday, September 13, 2012
Joe, trying to twist the argument by implying that these criticisms are somehow unfair, untrue or not completely fact-based is ridiculous. To imply that USC, Mt. Lebo or other high quality districts in the region are running a profit-based scam is absurd. The real reason charter schools are not present in those areas is because there isn't a need and therefore no demand for them. I applaud your enthusiasm and willingness to promote WHSD, but quite frankly, you're blatantly ignoring very real and very serious problems with the Woodland Hills system. When over 96% of public school districts in Pennsylvania are producing better academic results than WH, that is cause for serious, and highly justifiable concern. To ignore that reality is not only absurd, it is reckless. These statistics aren't fabrications. They aren't the result of spin. They are data-supported fact. Simply put, WHSD is not a good educational environment for kids. Period. It is among the very worst educational systems in the Commonwealth. No parent should EVER be criticized for sending their children to other schools as long as this is the case, and it is high time WHSD held itself accountable for such shockingly poor performance.
Disgruntled Alum
1:28 pm on Thursday, September 13, 2012
Again, WELL SAID!!!
TwoFists
1:49 pm on Thursday, September 13, 2012
Quite honestly, I don't have a problem with them spending on advertising. However, who is your target audience? I hope your goal would be to target the families that have already pulled their children out of WH in an attempt to show us what changes and improvements have been made. I don't think you can target people outside of the district and convince them to actually move to the area because of the school. I think you have to stop the bleeding first. One more thing, don't market it as "Where Diversity Works", that makes me want to pull my son out of the high school immediately. Focus more on things that matter like AP courses or other academic opportunities.
Todd Anderson
2:00 pm on Thursday, September 13, 2012
There simply is no arguing the failings of the WHSD, the data on safety and academics speaks far louder than any advertising campaign possibly could.
This is nothing more than using taxpayer money to try and dupe people into believing that the district isn't failing, in an effort to hold onto the children that are leaving. The goal is to maintain as much funding, and as many jobs as possible.
Mr. Lafferty, you have utterly failed to convince the reads here, and you will no doubt fail to convince any TV viewers to enroll their children in the WHSD. This is blatantly wasting $25,000 of taxpayer money.
Tara Reis
2:07 pm on Thursday, September 13, 2012
Thanks Pat! I had the pleasure of sitting in on your son's AP Government class just yesterday and was thrilled over the lively discussion and superior knowledge of OUR students. Where Diversity Works is all about the diverse curricular choices, the diverse backgrounds and experiences of our CERTIFIED teachers and the exciting array of opportunities available to our student body. I'll never tire of saying that I am more than satisfied with our curriculum and teachers and my kids are safe and happy at Shaffer and the Junior High. Oh, and I'm a proud alum too.
John Q
2:27 pm on Thursday, September 13, 2012
Tara, I applaud your enthusiasm. However, I would like to hear you address the academic performance issues in the WHSD and what the plan is, if any, to address them? I believe you are on the district's Board, so assume you are actively involved in such issues. Are you suggesting, by your lack of mentioning or addressing that issue in your comment, that they do not exist?
Tara Reis
2:47 pm on Thursday, September 13, 2012
"John Q", there isn't enough room for me to elaborate on all we are doing to address our proficiency on the once-a-year standardized tests. I am the Chair of our Curriculum C'ee and am very confident of what our principals and teachers are doing on a daily basis to prepare our students for what they will take on after 13 years in the WHSD. I have spoken to countless graduates who tell me that WH prepared them and even made their first year of college almost a "review". Students at Dickinson, Case Western, Pitt, Howard, Miami of Ohio, Duquesne . . I could go on. Commitment to the District like mine is not rare when you consider what many of our staff and faculty do, but what has become less the norm is a large cadre of involved parents. Every piece is needed and vital for overall student success.
Sue T
5:37 pm on Thursday, September 13, 2012
This is exactly the answer I'd expect from a politican. A lot of arm-waving but no facts. First, provide the statistics for the current student performance, Hard numbers. What percent go to college. What percent graduate college. Then, provide a detailed step-by-step detailed plan for improvement. Parents are looking for hard facts and true leadership. We've had enough of the cheerleaders.
John Q
6:13 pm on Thursday, September 13, 2012
Sue T, much of the hard data can be found here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Woodland_Hills_School_District
John Q
2:53 pm on Thursday, September 13, 2012
Tara, you're still not addressing the problem. The fact is, the academic performance of the district is abysmal. I find it concerning that the Curriculum Chair would imply, essentially, that there is no problem. If that is indicative of the attitude of WHSD's broader leadership should we assume that because the problem is not acknowledged that it is not viewed as a concern? Therefore, nothing is being done to address it? Maybe I'm confused by your response, but it seems that your brushing this aside or implying that academic performance is strong, despite the data.
Paul Gamrat
3:00 pm on Thursday, September 13, 2012
Mr. Lafferty, While it seems that others are challenging your attempts to market the distirct I for one applaude you. I often think of how great the total district would be if we the residents banded together and sent our chidren to OUR schools. Both of our children are Woodland Hills Graduates and are very successful young adults because of the education the received. They were both involved in extracurricular activities. Our daughter was the drum major her senoir year and our son was in the top of his class academically. The were both given school experiences that they might have not gotten at a pirvate school. I am a retired a public school teacher with 35 years experience in a nieghboring district. I have seen the effects of residents pulling out ther children from the schools for one reason or another and saw first hand the results on the community and property value. Why shouldn't we want OUR district to be the best? I am proud of the schools and we should work together to make us all proud. Woodland Hills has a lot to offer. To those who think the schools are a war zone they need to find out the truth. I think highlighting alumni on TV spots is sa great idea . I give you my support in your endever.
Jenny
7:41 pm on Thursday, September 13, 2012
Mr. Gamrat
Tara Reis
3:02 pm on Thursday, September 13, 2012
Yes, sir, you are confused. If you would like the detailed information that is too voluminous to list here, feel free to email me at reista@whsd.net and I will gladly outline the many instructional practices we have implemented to improve our once-a-year standardized test proficiency.
John Q
3:06 pm on Thursday, September 13, 2012
Tara, you're still not addressing the problem. The fact is, the academic performance of the district is abysmal. I find it concerning that the Curriculum Chair would imply, essentially, that there is no problem. If that is indicative of the attitude of WHSD's broader leadership should we assume that because the problem is not acknowledged that it is not viewed as a concern? Therefore, nothing is being done to address it? Maybe I'm confused by your response, but it seems that you're brushing this aside or implying that academic performance is strong, despite the data.
John Q
3:14 pm on Thursday, September 13, 2012
OK, so you're acknowledging, albeit in a vague way, that this is a problem. Glad to hear it, and that you're deploying plans to address it.
I know you think I, and the other commenters here, are piling on, but as someone who grew up in the district I am tired of WHSD dodging the issue and not owning up to this and other problems. The district needs to put aside the charade and own up to these problems. I, for one, believe this long-standing attitude of WHSD leadership implying that there aren't academic and safety problems is a major reason why they continue to exist in district schools. I'm not implying that WHSD's challenges are minor, but stubborn denial isn't going to fix anything.
John Q
5:24 pm on Thursday, September 13, 2012
Elizabeth, you hit the nail on the head. Exactly.
Joe Lafferty
7:02 pm on Thursday, September 13, 2012
Elizabeth that number is $500,000 last year, sorry for the typo. Thank you Paul for your informed opinion and encouraging words. I understand the challenges we face and I pray too that more of our citizens take up the banners and the fight for our children's schools. Paul you pointed out a glaring contradiction in many of the things I have read here and hear from people in that they pull their kids our of schools and then complain when programs are cut and things can't be done. When kids go to another "public school" that takes a lot of $ out of the school district budget and then the same kids parents want to yell that enough isn't done.
I have no children in the district, I work as a volunteer and still people want to challenge the fight I have taken up as silly or fruitless. Others in the district might even criticize me engaging people on public forums like Patch.com. I welcome the exchange of ideas. Thoughtful people step up, proudly say who they are and engage in discussions that don't have to agree. Cowards throw stones from an anonymous distance and give no credit to those people in the schools every day doing the job.
Paul, as you can see most people just seem to fight the fights they think they can win, others fight the fights that need fighting. Our school age children need the latter an not the former.
Missy Criss
8:06 pm on Thursday, September 13, 2012
I agree with statements on both sides of this argument. My experience, and that of my children, has NEVER indicated that they are in danger and that they are anything but safe. I find it very confusing that people keep bringing this up this and I believe is much more isolated than the media portrays.
That said, my kids are doing very well and I have great things to say about their teachers, but we need to deal with the issue of poor test performance. Granted tests often test how well you take tests! But it is the main mechanism we have for comparing schools and our test scores are not adequate.
I would encourage those who have experienced school in WHSD and decided to move their children to share why with the school board. Saying that it is "way better" elsewhere does not give us information. How exactly? What are you basing this on? We need to look at things critically and stop saying we are doing it well. I believe the science curriculum in the elementary schools is lacking (and I work in a science based field). Math, however, I think is quite good; my daughter is in 6th grade and learning algebra!! How can I complain about that?! My children have been given a variety of learning methods and fun ways to retain information. I applaud all of these efforts to engage our children. But I do think a major evaluation needs to occur and I think teachers and the available evidence in educational research need to be the main players in that conversation.
Tara Reis
8:45 pm on Thursday, September 13, 2012
"Sue T", I'm sure in my spare time I could research the percentage of our students who graduate from college, the percentage who get jobs, the percentage who keep those jobs, etc., but once they are given the tools to move beyond their 13 years in the WHSD, I believe the rest is up to them. When my son and daughter go onto college, if they should fail, I will not blame Woodland Hills. Call me crazy. But don't call me a politician. :) I'm not nearly that smart. I'm just a volunteer who is holding onto her belief in public education because my kids are being challenged academically, they are safe and they are happy. If that makes me a cheerleader, so be it. I've been called worse! If you need any more specific information, I welcome you to email me at reista@whsd.net. If I don't have the answer, I will get it for you.
Elizabeth
9:58 pm on Thursday, September 13, 2012
Tara,
The fact that no one can tell us how many WHSD graduates finish college is highly concerning. That is a reasonable outcome measure that should be tracked, and since some are arguing that the PSSA are not a good evaluation tool, you need to be able to provide alternative, empirical evidence of how your outcomes. If college graduation rates are truly independent of high school preparation, then there will not be variability across school districts--which is simply not true. As faculty at a University, I can tell you that a substantial part of the reason students fail out of college is because they were indeed poorly prepared by their school districts. They were passed through, grade after grade. The idea that high school is not critical in the preparation of students for college, trade school, or the job market is ludicrous. If your children go to college and fail, and you don't blame (at least in part) the school system that didn't educate them, provide them discipline, study skills, and a love of learning, then you and I have very different ideas about what to expect of a school system.
Frankly, I'm done with this conversation. The more I hear, the more I am convinced that no one at WHSD is serious about having my family in the schools. It's too bad, because we, and families like us, are exactly what this school district need more of. But you will continue to lose us until the school district gets serious about fixing its problems.
Sue T
3:34 pm on Sunday, September 16, 2012
Tara, you want to "advertise" to attract students back to the school district. To be successful, you are going to have to provide this type of information in a concise way. The parents main concern is the academic performance of the school. If you can't sell to parents the success of WHS grads, the advertising campaign is dead before it even starts. I've seen the statistics and know what they are. As a member of the school board, you should know them, defend them, or tell us how you are going to improve them. Cheer leading isn't going to help. Hard facts are.
Disgruntled Alum
11:31 pm on Thursday, September 13, 2012
Joe and Tara,
Both of you are alumni, as am I. Saying that the overall quality of education, administration, faculty, student and parent within the district has declined over the past 15 years is an understatement. If you can not see that, you are blind.
Perhaps it is time for someone to challenge Hoots vs the Board of Education and try to disolve this once mighty merger, and have our kids go back to school with people from their own neighborhoods and socio-economic situations.
It has taken 30 years, but it is now clear that this merger is a complete and utter failure.
John Q
11:51 pm on Thursday, September 13, 2012
Amen.
RPD
3:54 pm on Tuesday, September 18, 2012
Couldn't agree more. Merger was a collosal failure. I like the idea of challenging Hoots case -- how much longer are we going to pretend that things are going to get better? Statistics (poor academics, real estate values down, crime up) don't lie. I'm tired of my tax dollars being tossed into a bottomless pit.
John Q
11:49 pm on Thursday, September 13, 2012
I think it is important to point out the fact that neither Joe Lafferty or Tara Reis, who is a district Board member and the current Head of Curriculum for Woodland Hills School District, are able to produce even one piece of statistical data to support their argument that there is no academic performance crisis in the district. The closest thing to actual data either of them can produce are Reis' reference to "conversations" she's had with district graduates who are currently enrolled at marginal colleges. Furthermore, she invites interested parties to take the conversation offline via her private email if they want specifics on what WHSD is doing to address their many problems.
Tara, let's have that discussion publicly. What, exactly, are you doing to remedy the academic failures of WHSD? Why are you implying that the district is doing all it can, and that the fault rests with parents or guardians?
Families and students are fleeing your district in droves. Nobody is buying the rhetoric anymore. Tell us, in honest and fact-supported terms, why they are wrong. Better yet, accept and admit WHSD's plainly obvious failures and commit....PUBLICLY....to delivering real solutions and provide specific detail about what those solutions are and any measurable results they have produced to this point.
Bob Dove
10:08 am on Friday, September 14, 2012
As a parent of two Woodland Hills grads and an educator who does not work for the district nor hold any political position, I feel the need to put in my 2 cents at this point. Coming out of Woodland Hills, my daughter received almost a free ride at a private university for 4 years. My son is a Junior at Pitt and doing just fine. The lessons they learned in class and out of class, especially the diversity that they experienced, has served them well. My son was able to take advantage of the dual enrollment program with Point Park prior to going to Pitt and the effort by the WHHS administration to make that program work is commendable. For my money "diversity" is the issue. You either buy into its value (the workplace certainly does) or you don't. Culture clashes will always plague the district, that's a given based on its makeup. The resolution of those clashes on a daily basis is a life lesson that our kids experienced and understand and appreciate. I applaud the district, its teachers and administration for fighting the good fight and winning it daily. This district is providing its students with the tools to deal with real life issues way beyond the classroom. Education is more than books and test scores.
Louise
2:37 pm on Saturday, September 22, 2012
Well said Mr. Dove. My son is a senior who is doing quite well at WHHS. He chose to go to Woody BECAUSE of the diversity and the opportunities he is now taking advantage of. He is taking a bunch of AP classes, is active in the band and a proud member of the rifle team. He will begin tutoring other students next week. He did k-8 at a local private school. Gotta say that Woody has brought him into the wider world and that when he goes to college next year I think he will be better off. Oh,by the way, the safety thing? When was the last time any of you dropped by the high school to pick you child? Did you see any fights? Has your child told you about any? No That is because they take safety seriously.
Pat Schaefer
10:43 am on Friday, September 14, 2012
To those who suggest that WHSD should be dismantled and children go to their neighborhood schools., please explain just how those "neighborhood schools" will come into being? If we gave each municipality the District school tax collected, it wouldn't cover what would be needed for a neighborhood school. Folks move to an area expecting that educational opportunities for their children/children to be) exist. Considering each municipality would be need to provide buildings for school children from K-12th grade, hire and maintain a steady staff with benefits i.e., teachers, janitors, guidance counselors, administration, approve a curriculum, meet the criteria for special needs children and find enough citizens willing to serve on the school board--how do they envision that happening? What guarantee would there be that your "neighborhood school" would be able to meet all the expectations the residents would have? You can get the grad stats by emailing the High School Vice Principal. The universities and colleges that WHSD grads go to aren't "marginal". All the graduates that go colleges/Universities scored just as well on the SAT/ACTs, had the GPAs and extra-curricular portfolios competative enough to be accepted. Staying in college depends on academic preparedness, maturity and the ability to pay the cost.
The School Board is elected and determines how the District is run. Take turns with your neighbors and go to the meetings. Meet with them. Run for School Board.
John Q
11:10 am on Friday, September 14, 2012
Pat, you must be fairly new to the East Hills. The neighborhood schools reference is wistful and wishful thinking from those of us who remember Churchill School District, and Edgewood SD and even Swissvale SD. Those districts were delivering much higher quality education that WHSD is now following the highly controversial and negatively received merger that was forced on these communities back in the early 1980s.
Since the merger and creation of Woodland Hills SD, education quality in these communities has plummeted, real estate values are down significantly and hundreds of families have moved out of the district. Crime rates have skyrocketed. Student enrollment is down by more than 2,000 pupils since the merger, a 33%+ drop. Many people who were around at that time and experienced it first hand know full well that the merger has proven to be a colossal failure. And the results are getting worse, not better. The high school is now in 5th Year Corrective Action II.....5th consecutive year!! It is only meeting minimum requirements in 1 of 12 PA Dept. of Education metrics....failing in the other 11. Of the other 3 school districts (out of 43 total) in the county currently in Corrective Action, two are neighboring districts Penn Hills and Wilkinsburg. In other words, the East Hills has become an educational sinkhole in the past 30 years.
Yet the administration would have you believe there is no problem.
Pat Schaefer
1:37 pm on Friday, September 14, 2012
The point of my previous submission was, that all the wistful thinking of the good old days or talk of dismantling the District doesn't change anything nor offers any practical solution towards improving academics the District. WHY has "the East Hills has become an educational sink hole in the past 30 years"? Where are all the active caring citizens of all the WHSD communities who keep writing in? Folks have said they don't like what's going on in the District for over 20 years and the Board doesn't address their concerns yet I see very few new names on the ballot at election time. How many folks are willing to attend AND do attend school Board meetings and report back to other parents? Reading reports on how the school is failing, how about exploring A+ school workshops and learn ways to get the schools to improve? Know of practical solutions that can be done to turn things around, show up, stand up and speak up. I've lived in the District for 25 years and am aware of the history, problems and the impact of the WHSD. I'm aware of the successs of the District too. My children and most of their WHSD friends took AP courses, experienced the band, musicals, sports, science competitions, the National Honors society. They are University honors students. Now they write about now how going WHSD and having friends whose lives were different from theirs has given them an open perspective and has prepared them to go into world to make a difference. There's lots to do.
Mary
2:33 pm on Friday, September 14, 2012
Well I think it is money well spent if it can highlight some reasons to give district schools a try or another chance. But Joe you will need to get a thicker skin because you are going to get a LOT of push back. What I think a lot of WHSD supporters aren't acknowledging is that many of the students who attend charter and private schools DID start out in Woodland Hills schools and their parents pulled them out for whatever reason. I think more effort should be made to find out those reasons and see if they can be corrected. It's not just based on rumors or things that happened in the past. I have kids in district schools and talk to lots of parents - they have real concerns based on real things that they have seen happen to their kids or other kids in the same school. Parents talk and compare notes on district schools and alternatives. With the opportunity scholarships grants coming this year and even more so next year many more parents will be looking at whether or not they want to pull their kids from district schools.
TwoFists
4:30 pm on Friday, September 14, 2012
I was in 5th grade when the merger happened and I have to agree with John Q, it basically destroyed the better school districts of Churchill, Edgewood, and even Swissvale. The situation got worse and worse throughout the years because the parents from Churchill and Edgewood pulled their kids out of Woodland Hills due to lower education standards as well as for safety reasons.
I moved back to Pittsburgh 10 years ago and put my son in WH but removed him for 2 reasons:
- The students in his class were at least 1 full year behind where he was in his previous school in Florida, maybe 2 years
- Safety. He was constantly being bullied by little thugs in his class and on the playground and we got no resolution from the teachers or principal.
We put both of our children in Propel where they did great. Our daughter is still there and has been since Kindergarten
Now, that said, when it came to high school, we were not satisfied with the Propel system that my son was in for 9th grade. We pulled him out before 10th grade and re-enrolled him into Woodland Hills where he does take advantage of the AP courses, the sports, etc... We plan on doing the same thing with our daughter.
The problems at WHHS aren't all the schools fault, but they do have fault. Kids shouldn't be graduating if they aren't proficient. It's mostly a family/parental failure for not being involved. I go to open houses there and I rarely see more than 4 parents in the classroom.
Monica
1:15 pm on Monday, September 17, 2012
I have to say that the discussion here is more informative than any school board meeting that I have ever attended. I would love to hear more facts and less emotional arguments. I understand that there are many successful graduates, great teachers and opportunites for AP classes in the high school in WHSD. This does not tell me anything about why I should ignore the failing test grades and poor graduation rate. This is our 3rd year with children attending school here and each of those 3 years I have looked at other schools, charter and private, debating on whether or not to take my children out of the district. We put our house up for sale while we considered moving to another district. Our house did not sell. Property values are decreasing every year and I blame the school district for it. We, unfortunately, can't easily afford private school and I really want my children to attend a diverse, public school, however I struggle each year to decide if I am doing the best thing for my children. If you want to spend $25,000 of our tax payer money, I would appreciate your putting back into the school. I quite frankly don't feel that hearing alums success stories tells me anything about why I should keep my children in this district. I would ike to hear facts and see a plan for exactly how things are going to improve.
John Q
11:34 am on Tuesday, September 18, 2012
Monica, I think the silence from Tara, Joe or anyone else in the WHSD speaks volumes. When pressed for hard facts and a substantive response to these legitimate questions, they cannot come up with a response. That tells me all I need to know and makes it easy to see why WHSD enrollment is plummeting. It is projected to lose another 800+ students in the next decade, making total enrollment just half of what it was when the merger occurred. Epic fail.
Joe Lafferty
11:46 pm on Thursday, September 20, 2012
Sorry John Q, I dont know why you missed the typed chin whacks about why what you say is counterproductive and false so I checked back in. Let monica know that some people do, some people dont and the least of the rest try to drag down everyone. Sad Bro, really sad. I bet you yell at sports on TV claiming you know more!!! Ha ha ha
District Supporter
7:49 am on Thursday, September 20, 2012
This article may not contain the hard facts that some of you want, but it is certainly a start.
http://www.post-gazette.com/stories/news/education/twice-as-many-allegheny-county-school-districts-failing-to-meet-ayp-goal-654050/
"The one bright spot reported so far in Allegheny County is in the Woodland Hills School District, which did not make AYP in 2011 but hit its targets this year and is designated as "Making Progress.""
John Q
9:01 am on Thursday, September 20, 2012
District Supporter, this is a very flimsy statistic to put up in the face of the mountain of data plainly showing the WHSD is failing. The district is in 3rd year corrective action....the high school is in 5th year.
Those of you wishing to take an objective look at all of the data, instead of cherry picking can find it here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Woodland_Hills_School_District
Joe Lafferty
11:39 pm on Thursday, September 20, 2012
Hi John Q, sorry you missed me but I was off fighting the good fight not heaving anonymous stones from your home of cowardice. So when your complaining the test scores tell the full tale but when they prove that WHHS is doing better they are flimsy? A hypocrite and a coward. Notice how the people who are positive and the people who are negative have anonymous IDs? Keep typing, that hole you're in is getting deeper. Ha Ha ha
Zandy Dudiak
11:58 pm on Thursday, September 20, 2012
Joe, I remember one Woodland Hills administrator once explained to a group of parents that the scores are a bit misleading in that it takes many more kids scoring near the top to pull up the scores at the bottom. I've always felt that the state should report the scores as the range of scores for each district so people can see that, yes, students are actually doing well in the district and, yes, there are students who still need help improving.
Joe Lafferty
1:31 pm on Saturday, September 22, 2012
I agree Zandy
Steve Karas
9:48 am on Friday, September 21, 2012
Instead of joining the discussion under an assumed name, why not do some research and then suggest a way for the district to improve? Anyone can complain. It take someone who cares to try to make a change.
Schools NOT making AYP in our county: Duquesne, McKeesport, Sto-Rox, Bethel Park, Clairton, Keystone Oaks, North Hills, Pittsburgh, Steel Valley,West Mifflin, Woodland Hills, Upper St. Clair, Fox Chapel,Mt. Lebanon, and North Allegheny did not submit all of their data. Think AYP is a good test? Probably not.
Public schools educate everyone. Private schools can select their students, so there will probably always be a difference.
Joe Lafferty
1:32 pm on Saturday, September 22, 2012
Great comments Steve.
Steve Karas
9:51 am on Friday, September 21, 2012
As far as advertising, try these free places: bolgspot, twitter, facebook, you-tube, linked-in, press-releases, free websites. Also consider establishing a connection with specific media. If they know they can call you or email at any time and get information, they will.
Put up a few hundred dollars and I bet you can find some students to help you!!
Steve Karas
9:51 am on Friday, September 21, 2012
Instead of joining the discussion under an assumed name, why not do some research and then suggest a way for the district to improve? Anyone can complain. It take someone who cares to try to make a change.
Schools NOT making AYP in our county: Duquesne, McKeesport, Sto-Rox, Bethel Park, Clairton, Keystone Oaks, North Hills, Pittsburgh, Steel Valley,West Mifflin, Woodland Hills, Upper St. Clair, Fox Chapel,Mt. Lebanon, and North Allegheny did not submit all of their data. Think AYP is a good test? Probably not.
Public schools educate everyone. Private schools can select their students, so there will probably always be a difference.